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4&20 blackbirds and Reptile Dysfunction

No, I’m not going to weigh in on the shakeup at 4&20 blackbirds, but thought I am adding that site and a new blog, Reptile Dysfunction, to the blogroll and encourage people to check both out and make their judgments about reading the sites or not. Over the past few years, I’ve had some serious disagreements with one or more of authors at 4&20, and pulled it from my blog roll because I felt like the site wasn’t often incredibly relevant to Montana politics—and because I was frustrated by the personal nature of the disagreements that seemed to crop up.

In the end, though, life is too probably too short for getting enraged over Internet posts and in fights with people whose names I don’t even know. And a blogroll certainly isn’t an endorsement of any particular point of view. I’ll try to be more expansive in our links over here in the future.

And it’s important to have an open mind that people, situations, and even web sites can change. Or that my response to those can as well.

The truth is that I believe in debate and disagreement. My hope is that the future of blogging in Montana (for all participants) can be a bit more about fighting over ideas than personalities. That will be my aspiration at least.

Good luck to both sites, new and renewed.

If you appreciate an independent voice holding Montana politicians accountable and informing voters, and you can throw a few dollars a month our way, we would certainly appreciate it.

About the author

Don Pogreba

Don Pogreba has been writing about Montana politics since 2005 and teaching high school English since 2000. He's a former debate coach, and loyal, if often sad, fan of the San Diego Padres and Portland Timbers. He spends far too many hours of his life working at school and on his small business, Big Sky Debate.
His work has appeared in Politico and Rewire.
In the past few years, travel has become a priority, whether it's a road trip to some little town in Montana or a museum of culture in Ísafjörður, Iceland.


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  • By the time I get around to posting it, if I get around to posting it, My thoughts on the 4&20 sitch will likely no longer be relevant in the ADD world of Internet communication. However, there are two things to note widely.

    Ellie Hill’s comment: ” in politics if you hate EVERYONE in the room, there is nobody left. At
    4&20, the room was empty except a bunch of guys holding rocks.” is spot on.

    And there is an answer to Duganz’s question” “when has the Montana blogging scene been about decorum.” It never was, but perhaps he used the wrong word. Only British aristocracy, business meetings and cotillions have ever been about “decorum”. Though likely not ‘polite’, there certainly was a time when the Montana online was respectful to the efforts of other bloggers, at least on the right-moderate to leftward side. Swede was not the one who got what he wanted by fracturing and silencing others. That took someone much more toxic.

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