Loose ends: Zinke/Ryan, I-181, voting

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The tale of two Ryans

The breaking news is U.S. House Speaker Paul Ryan is coming to Billings on behalf of congressional candidate Ryan Zinke.

Good news for Zinke but also for challenger Denise Juneau. There are 435 House races this year so why Speaker Ryan would campaign for Ryan Zinke would indicate a competitive House race.

The two Ryans make for strange bedfellows as Zinke has steadfastly supported Donald Trump and Ryan has tried to distance himself from the Trump candidacy by about a million miles. But Ryan’s visit might dampen Zinke’s appearance as a rabid Trumpeter. At least that’s one perspective.

This could also portend Republican’s attempt to rebuild the party. Putting Zinke and Ryan on the same stage may signal an endeavor at conflict resolution.

Good luck with that.

Yes or No on I-181?

With a number of people who are close to me suffering from Alzheimer’s and other forms of dementia, at first blush I was leaning ‘Yes’ on I-181. I was more conflicted about this item on the ballot than perhaps any other.

And although I don’t put a lot of stock in Billings Gazette endorsements, today’s column recommending a ‘No’ vote was factual and thoughtful.

One of the main opponents of I-181, state Sen. Dick Barrett, is a well-respected Democrat and retired UM economics professor. Another key opponent is Republican state Sen. Rob Story, a former senate president. So, this is a common sense, not partisan, issue. It just doesn’t seem to pencil out.

I’m voting ‘No’ on I-181.

But you gotta vote

It has come to my attention that there are folks who are not voting, at all, in the 2016 election. I can understand the frustration in some of the choices being offered and as a way of protest, folks aren’t casting a ballot.

This would be a mistake. I’ll cite just one down-ticket example that’s in my district. My friend, Gail Gutsche, is running against incumbent Bob Lake for a seat on the PSC. So you have a choice between someone who is going to push for more renewables and energy conservation (Gail) and one who seems to be pretty cozy with the status quo, meaning fossil fuels and utility companies (Bob).

Then there are legislative and judicial races, initiatives, and U.S. House and gubernatorial candidates. Imagine the damage that could be done if the Republicans hold majorities in both houses of the legislature and there’s no veto pen.

To the anarchists out there who would like to see the whole, corrupt system crumble and aren’t voting, well, there’s some appeal in that. But it’s always a crapshoot in what might follow: could be utopia or could be totalitarianism. I’m not ready to take that gamble.

 

 

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Pete Talbot

'Papa’ Pete Talbot is first and foremost a grandfather to five wonderful grandchildren. Like many Montanans, he has held numerous jobs over the years: film and video producer, a partner in a marketing and advertising firm, a builder and a property manager. He’s served on local and statewide Democratic Party boards. Pete has also been blogging at various sites for over a decade. Ping-pong and skiing are his favorite diversions. He enjoys bourbon.

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Pogo Possum

Pete, Paul Ryan’s appearance in Montana is a normal rally the GOP and Republican leaning Independent troops in the last weeks of the election to help Zinke as well as a lot of down ballot races. There have been appearances by a number of national GOP leaders in the past month+ including Rick Perry & Donald Rumsfeld for Gianforte and Senator John Thune touring the state with Steve Daines and some down ballot candidates. Both parties have invited nationally recognized names in the final weeks of an election cycle to build momentum and rally the troops. I have seen few… Read more »

JC
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Pete, only 57.6 million out of 202 million eligible voters (28.5%) voted in the primary. That means, according to your logic, that there are 144 million “anarchists” out there? I didn’t realize that 1) anarchists didn’t vote and 2) if you don’t vote you’ll be labeled an anarchist. In any case, if there are 144 million “anarchists” out there, maybe democracy isn’t working out too well in the U.S. Of course, maybe there are a only handful of anarchists, and just a whole lot of of disillusioned, politically apathetic people out there. A whole lot of men in the 60’s… Read more »

James Conner
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Ryan is helping Zinke, who probably doesn’t need the help, so that when Ryan runs for re-election as speaker, assuming the GOP holds the house, Zinke will help Ryan.

I’m voting against I-181. It’s a brazen end run around the legislature.

And, I’m voting. Those who do not vote lose their moral right to complain about the results.

JC
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Voting does not grant an individual any more or less right to petition for a redress of grievances. The Constitution purportedly serves to protect the rights of all, voters or not. And why would someone (a voter) think they have the right to tell others (non-voters) what their moral rights are? And do the 6 million felons who live in states denying them voters rights lose their moral right to complain because of their status? Civil courts sure wouldn’t agree with that. How about kids? Declaring what the moral authority of another is, depending on their personal choice, is a… Read more »

James Conner
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You are conflating moral rights with legal rights.

JC
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And what qualifies you to outline my moral rights?

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I thought about not voting this year do to the terrible candidates we ended up with. I’m of the 60’s but didn’t burn my draft card and ended up in Vietnam. So I will vote in respect to those near 58,000 soldiers who lost their life in a senseless war so maybe they can have some voice against endless war. I don’t think Zinke needs any help from Ryan. I look at it this way. The GOP wants to run the victory margin up against Juneau to make Zinke look like a tough candidate when he runs against Tester in… Read more »

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My neighbor explained it for me better than anyone I know. He said that for all the folks who consider just voting for Drumpf and bringing the entire system crashing down, he said to remember the Tarzan theory of politics. And that would be that when you’re swinging from vine to vine, ya DON’T let go of one until you have another! Voting from Drumpf, or not voting at all, is just letting go. And you wanna know something? My neighbor’s right! Kinda makes sense, don’t it? The status quo for eight more years looks pretty dammm good compared to… Read more »

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I see that Limp Lizard (eReptile Dysfunction) burned his ballot. Way to go, Limpy! Only problem is that when you burn sumthin’, that means you’re toast! You toasted not only your OWN ass, but lots of other peoples’ too! What a pathetic flocker. Meet the Flockers!

https://reptiledysfunction.wordpress.com/2016/10/24/why-i-burned-my-ballot-last-night/

William Skink
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William Skink

refusing to vote is not synonymous with wanting the corrupt system to crumble. I have a family, why would I want the system to crumble? I simply refuse to lend my consent to this utterly corrupt system anymore.

LK
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But…..but…….but, the inbreds for Jeezus continue to vote in record numbers! And that can be REAL hard on our public lands. If for no other reason, it’s important to keep the inbreds off the land board, for they could do a whole lotta of mischief in a short period of time. And besides, I’m one who could never allow the inbreds to win be default. Just ain’t my style. I, too, used to be of the belief that things will never change until folks have suffered enough. Well, I think that they have suffered enough, but now, the change they… Read more »

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